The Land at Hillside Farms
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Christa Hein : Hey there, welcome to the Farm Educator’s Roadmap. I'm Christa Hein, former nonprofit girl turned farm education entrepreneur. I've spent the last 30 years creating hands-on programs that connect people to the land, animals, and the traditions that nourish our daily lives.
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Christa Hein: Hi, welcome back to the Farm Educator’s Roadmap. Today I'm talking with Abby Collins, Director of Education and Events at the Lands at Hillside Farms in Pennsylvania, a 438-acre nonprofit educational dairy farm that has grown into a really layered community resource over the past 20 years.
Hillside is more than field trips and camps, they've built a farm that also holds therapeutic programs, vocational partnerships, community events, and has a longstanding educational relationship across their region. Abby has been a part of the farm for close to 20 years in different roles and now leads education and events during a season that includes school tours, farm visits, camps, and major anniversary planning.
So, today we're going to talk about Abby's long connection to Hillside, the programs and partnerships that make this farm [00:02:00] stand out, and the bigger question of how a farm becomes a true community anchor. Abby, thanks so much for joining me.
Abby Collins: Thank you so much for having me. I'm really excited to be here.
Christa Hein: Absolutely. Abby, let's start at the beginning. How did the Lands at Hillside Farms first come into your life, and what were you doing at the time?
Abby Collins: It's not very exciting, but our executive director Chet Mozloom was my neighbor, he lived across the street from me. So, I started here when I was 15, and it was quite simply, he came outside and he said, “Hey, do you want a job?” And I said, “Sure.” And I haven't left since.
Christa Hein: Well, so your first role at the farm then was what as a 15-year-old?
Abby Collins: Working in the ice cream parlor.
Christa Hein: Ah. And then how have your different roles evolved over the 20 years that you've been there?
Abby Collins: So, I worked in the ice cream parlor, and then as I got older, we are a dairy farm, so, it transitioned from the ice cream parlor to [00:03:00] our dairy counter where I spent most of my time. So, it was a nice job to have while I was going to college, kind of, getting my feet on the ground into adulthood. And it just turned into this amazing opportunity that I was able to take over education.
Christa Hein: Wow. So, did you have other teaching roles in between as you worked into this management role?
Abby Collins: So, prior to taking on this role full-time, I had worked for a behavioral health company working with individuals with different exceptionalities, disabilities on the autism spectrum. So that's what I was doing before that, and I really was just able to implement it into my role here. So now, I get the best of both worlds really.
Christa Hein: Ah, nice. Nice. So, before we go deeper into the programs, I want to ground listeners into what Hillside is today. For someone who's never been there, how would you describe the Lands at Hillside Farms? What would they see and experience if they showed up for the first time?
Abby Collins: [00:04:00] So we are a, I would say small to maybe the everyday visitor. We are an educational, nonprofit dairy farm. If you come in the summer, you're going to see long ice cream lines. You’re going to see very cute little baby calves. It's really nice.
We're free to the public, so you're more than welcome to come. And they can walk the grounds, and they can see the animals, and they can get a little bit closer to nature without having to pay an arm and a leg. And for a lot of people, it's right in their backyard. So, we're probably 10 to 15 minutes from the inner-city type area. So, it just makes it easier to come out here.
And a lot of people don’t know it, but it's a really relaxing place. It's a fun place. We have become very popular, like I said, very popular now that the sun is finally shining here in Pennsylvania. But yeah, at a very surface level, just a break from the chaos I always say.
Christa Hein: So, you're a working dairy farm, but also a nonprofit educational space. How do those two pieces fit together in your day-to-day operations?
Abby Collins: [00:05:00] So every part of it is nonprofit, including the dairy.
Christa Hein: Oh, okay.
Abby Collins: We're all one big nonprofit. So, I guess we kind of have to go back to how we came to be a nonprofit.
Our founder, Dr. Doug Ayers, had purchased Hillside in 2005 from the Cunningham family, who originally owned the farm. So, it was family-owned at one point. But Dr. Ayers had this big vision of essentially wanting to save the world. That's really what he wanted to do. And his big thing, and our big thing, part of our mission, is creating connection, creating an environment, and creating things that 200 years from now, you'll be able to use what we have, or it'll be better. Leaving it better for those later on.
So, what he did was he started the transition into making it a nonprofit. So, he brought back the cows, he brought back milking, he opened up the barns, he started restoring the ecosystems in the area. And we've just been able to [00:06:00] grow and build on that ever since, and doing our best to keep improving it the way that we can.
One of our big things right now is we have a dairy farm, and we do have a stream nearby and the question is, can we keep the stream clean with the cows here? And we've actually been very successful in doing that. Yes, we've been super successful. It's actually one of our big projects right now that's going really well.
But it's nice. We bottle in glass, so, all of our stuff comes in glass bottles, which also goes towards our sustainability mission. We're all just about family, making sustainable choices, making the slightest bit of healthier choices, caring about your environment, caring about your neighbor, caring about the people around you.
Christa Hein: Beautiful. So, now that we have that picture, let's talk about what's actually happening on the farm with your day-to-day programs. So, what does this season look like for you behind the scenes when you're balancing school tours, farm visits, camps, and event planning all at once?
Abby Collins: So, we thrive in chaos. I have always said this, we do thrive in chaos. This is what I think. It's our time to [00:07:00] shine. So, we're not a big-staffed farm, I'll say that. So, it's a lot of people taking on a lot of different roles. So right now, there's I think, I tried to count, maybe seven or eight full-time staff only on the farm that's behind the scenes making everything work.
But right now, it's truly just give us your ideas. What's your plan? Make your schedule and how can we make this the best experience we can for our visitors, for our students? How can we make it better? It's always, how can we make it better? How can we improve it? What can we do? How can we reach more people?
So right now, we're gearing up. Schools are coming out. The sun is shining. Thank goodness the snow is gone. So, it's really exciting to have the people back on the farm.
But right now, day to day, it's primarily tours. So, we have anywhere from pre-K all the way up to college levels coming out for all different things. It could be something as simple as just coming to visit the animals. There's a lot that want to see dairy behind the scenes, so they want to see how that process [00:08:00] works. And then at the college level, the environmental aspect of it. So, we're really hitting all different areas at once.
Christa Hein: So, your website talks about the farm as a place where students can step into different roles like farmer, historian, scientist, how do you design experiences so they feel immersive rather than just observational?
Abby Collins: So, we have different programs for different age groups. And really, it's just connecting back to nature, to the environment, and catering to what they need. It's a lot of communication with our local educators. What do they need? What do your kids need? Or asking the public, what do you need more of? What are you looking to do? How can we help you?
So right now, I think our 4-H program's doing a really good job as to hitting all those different marks. Our Green Guides vocational program, that's a big one that hits a lot of different areas. And then sure enough, when summer comes around with summer camp, you can feel like a [00:09:00] farmer, but you're also going to get in the stream and learn about the environment and learn about bugs. So really, it's just catering to what we think the community needs or what we're being told that the kids really want.
Christa Hein: What do you think that the schools and the groups are most drawn to right now? Are they coming for agriculture, the animals, standard-based learning, sensory experiences, or something else entirely?
Abby Collins: We get a lot of sensory based. We do get a lot of special education groups that come out here. And I think that's because we are smaller, we're a lot quieter of an environment. We're not as hectic. What we're seeing an increase in, which I think is really great, I'm not sure if you've ever heard of, it's called Adopt A Cow?
Christa Hein: I've heard of that. Yeah.
Abby Collins: So, while we have not joined in on that, I had just started hearing about it last school year. There's a lot of schools that are getting involved in that, and the end result of that program is to visit a farm and to visit a calf. And we're lucking out because they want to come here. So, you're seeing an increase in [00:10:00] interest in farming, in dairy, in learning where your food comes from. There is an increase there, there is an interest in there, which is really exciting to see.
And then at the college level, a lot of environmental factors. High school level water testing, we get that. And then the littles, they really just want to see an animal up close and personal. We do have a lot of schools in the area where these kids would never have the opportunity otherwise to see a calf in person or to see a goat in person. And they get so excited to see something not on a screen, not in a book, like, it's right in front of you. So that's really exciting.
Christa Hein: Yeah, so beyond those shorter visits, you also have programs where kids are spending a lot more time on the farm. I saw that your summer farm camp is now in its 19th season, which says a lot all by itself. What do you think has made your summer camp strong enough to keep going and growing for that long?
Abby Collins: I don't want to say it's a simple camp, but I do think the simplicity of it. I [00:11:00] think it is getting kids outside, getting them back to nature, just providing a different opportunity. We're not a sports camp. We're not, you know, I don't have rock walls, we're not elaborate. We're not this big, crazy, overstimulating experience. We're just, we're outside. We're having fun and we're learning. And you don't know you're learning. That's my big thing. You don't realize you're learning.
But it's been really amazing to see the increase in interest in it, in the 19 season. Right now, I have a wait list. I wish I could add more weeks to the summer. There's not enough weeks. So, that always makes us feel really good to see that, not only do people want to come to camp, but we're filling up camp and I have a wait list for camp. So, it shows that there's a need. It shows that there's a want. So, what can we do, you know? How can I, I wish I could add. I do. I say I need another month in the summer to make things work.
Christa Hein: Right. So, what do you hope that the children carry home with them after that week with you?
Abby Collins: [00:12:00] Really, just caring more about what's going on around you. Care about your environment. You should care about being outside. I can't stress this enough being outside. Learning that the things that you have access to, don't just show up. You know, there is someone working really hard behind the scenes to make this ice cream cone possible, to make the milk and the food that you're consuming possible. There's a lot of care involved. And you should care, too.
And just how much fun you can have being a kid, essentially. Like, just have fun. That's my biggest thing. But they come, and my camp, there's not really any sort of technology. I try to keep the phones away. Go outside. Please play. Please have fun.
And they do farm chores. That's the other thing. They are engaged in farm chores. And the amount of parents that are like, “I can't get my kids to clean their room, but they're cleaning out stalls, and they're feeding animals.” And they're having fun doing it. They're having fun. Kids want to learn. [00:13:00] They just don't want to feel like they're learning
Christa Hein: So, one of the things that really stands out to me about your farm, as I was looking through your programs on the website, is that some of them go so far beyond traditional farm education. Can you tell us about your Green Guides program, who that serves, and what that program looks like?
Abby Collins: Sure. So, our Green Guides program is our vocational program. It's run through our local LIU, so the Learners Intermediate Unit. And it's a vocational program for kids and young adults with disabilities who are looking for secondary, like, for after school, they're looking for employment opportunities.
So, they come out during the school year, they come in the summer. They have job coaches. So right now, during the school year, they're involved with animal care. They're over in our barns, they are growing things in our greenhouse, and then in the summer, they have a whole garden that they grow. And then the students sell what they grow at our local farmer's [00:14:00] market. They're great. The kids are wonderful. They do such a great job. They're such a joy to have on the farm. It was something that was a pilot program and it did so well it's been here ever since.
And the job coaches that run it are incredible human beings. They care so much and they do such a great job. And the kids love it. They're always coming back. I see so many kids that are always here. We actually have some kids that have aged out, and they still come back to volunteer with them. They're so wonderful. It's so wonderful.
Christa Hein: So, I noticed on the website it was mentioning that green guides includes things like gross and fine motor skills, socialization, healthy eating, grief processing, self-confidence. That's such a wide and thoughtful range. How did the program grow into something that supports the whole child in that way?
Abby Collins: I really think that the people who run it through the LIU, they're so great and they really want it to work, and they really want it to [00:15:00] excel, that they truly have made this program. They put their heart and soul into this program. But the kids, they make friends. There are kids that weren't social before, and now they're like little social butterflies.
They look forward to coming here. They feel included. You can see they love being involved with things, and, again, they're learning and they don't realize they're learning. And it's just a fun way to keep them in the community, get them involved, take pride in what they're doing.
In the summer, I give them all the credit when they're in that garden and they are busting their butts, and it's so hot out, and they are just having the time of their lives. And they're learning all these skills that they're going to carry with them. And it's so great to see.
The people running it have truly, I think, made it so successful. The kids want to come back, they want to be here. I had kids here the other day that were on a tour with their classroom and they've come to this program before. The second they got off the bus, it was, “Is Ms. Sarah, here is Mr. Jack here. I used to work here. Can I show you what I used to do?” And I'm, “ Yes, please show us.”
And they tell [00:16:00] all their friends, they tell everybody. They have so much pride in what they do. They're so excited to be here. But I think that's really what's made it so great. The kids just wanted to keep coming back. The people, they've developed it into this really fun, a fun job really. And just giving them confidence. It was really about building their confidence. And they've done a really good job at executing that.
Christa Hein: So, I was struck by one detail that it mentions that for children with complex medical needs, you choose specific animals that seek out physical contact. Can you talk about that level of intentionality? How do you decide which animal experience and pacing are right for particular groups?
Abby Collins: So, our barn manager, her name is Laura. She is incredible with these animals. Her and her staff do amazing work. And they really work towards bonding with our animals. Animals let you know, I say this all the time. There are some who I'm like, that's your perfect partner. Other ones are like that job is not [00:17:00] necessarily for me.
But it's really just the relationships that our staff has built with the animals. You know who's good and who's not. So, we have a few over there that are so calm. It's amazing to see, like, a kid goes in, they're ready to work, they're ready to go, and other ones get a little scared. But it comes down to the relationship our staff has and working with the animals every single day. They're not just animals to us. They are a part of our family. Getting to know the animal is really important.
And then being able to, like, pair it up with a kid and just see how it works. And some kids gravitate towards other ones, like they really do. There's some animals that they can walk in, and the animal loves them, and I'm like, that animal doesn't even like me. I don't know. How did you get to pet that animal? And I can't, it doesn't make any sense. But I think it just comes down to the care and the relationship built with the animals themselves. They're working with those animals every day, so they have such a bond with some of them. And the kids usually gravitate towards one. They [00:18:00] usually find a buddy, and they're like, whether you like it or not, you're going to be my friend. Animals are so quick, like they just know. I think they know.
Christa Hein: So, you also have a Care Farming program which supports children who've experienced trauma or loss. How did that program begin and how is that different from your other offerings?
Abby Collins: So, I love talking about Care Farming. So, Care Farming started back in 2013 through the help of our Marketing and Development Director, Suzanne Kapral. So, it is evidence-based, it's free to kids in our area, it's three weeks long, and we decided there's nothing like this. And it's how, again, how can we give back to our community and what can we do to help these kids in our area? It's farm-based therapy mixed in with mental health as well.
So, the camp is limited to 15 kids a week. It helps kids ages six to fourteen, and they have experienced some sort of trauma. So, we [00:19:00] have kids that are here that have lost a loved one, usually a parent, unfortunately, a parent, a sibling, a grandparent. And that could be through an unexpected death, it could be through illness, it unfortunately could be at the hands of somebody else. We have a lot of overdoses that come in, but then we also have kids that are victims of abuse. They've been removed from their home.
We do have a whole week dedicated to our CASA kids and they're all kids that are in the foster care system currently. So, it's a safe place for them to come, they get to work with the animals, and they get to build a relationship, not only with the animals, but with peers who have been through similar circumstances. And it really just kind of allows them to realize they're not alone. I feel like for a lot of these kids, they feel very isolated. Something like, they feel very alone in it, like nobody else kind of knows how they're feeling, and then they're able to be in a safe, calm environment with someone else who's gone through something similar.
So, what's great is they get [00:20:00] the farm-based end of it, and then we bring in mental health counselors and trauma counselors that do group and individual therapies with them every day. And we also partner with the Food Dignity program. Their meals are provided for the day. And then we also have a partnership with Kings College and their occupational therapy program. So, their students are actually, it's part of their curriculum now to come and be involved with the camp.
It's a very eye-opening experience. You leave with a very shifted perspective by the end of it. And we have kids that come back. We have kids that they come here and their parents, or their loved ones, or whomever they're with, send them here, because they haven't opened up and they haven't, you know, you can see they're struggling. And by the end of the week, they've shared every war story known to man. And they've made friends and they come back and they feel better. And it's one of those things, like I said, it's free to them, it's of no cost to these families or to these kids. And that's through private donation that we're able to do that. It's really cool. [00:21:00] It's one of my favorite things on the farm, if not my favorite.
Christa Hein: Because it's such sensitive work, how do you balance being a farm educator with working alongside counselors and therapists, student occupational therapy students, what does that collaboration look like in your program?
Abby Collins: There's a lot of moving parts. It's a lot of people with the same, we want the same, we want to help these kids. And it is hard. There are days where you, especially during that camp, where you leave at the end of the day and I'm like, I don't know how these kids do it. I can't imagine as a 35-year-old adult trying to manage all these feelings and emotions. That someone at the age of nine is feeling.
But it's really nice to have a team of people who have the same vision. So, we're all on the same page, we all work together. Nobody ever needs to feel like they're drowning staff wise.
Christa Hein: I think that's beautiful to think about this group of people really coming together to create this programming that supports them in so many [00:22:00] different and varied ways. I'm sure it's not only a beautiful thing to witness, but also feels like it's coming back to what I've read about your founder, as this doctor whose goal was just to give and give.
There was one part on the website when it was talking about the doctor who started the farm and that he drove a rusty old pickup truck, because he was just so interested in giving what he had to others. And so, it feels like this program is so in alignment with what he would've wanted.
Abby Collins: Yes, we've always said to see him and to look at him, if you did not know him, you would never know. You would never know his successes. You would never know. He was one of a kind, for sure, one of a kind of an individual. We joke saying he wanted to save the world, but I really think he thought he could.
So, we're going to continue to do the best we can to do that. But it comes back to more people care. People [00:23:00] do care. It's just finding those people and encouraging them to get involved.
Christa Hein: So, it sounds like this program, as well as others, are really partnership based. So how do partnerships show up in your work? What role do they play in allowing you to offer this full range of programs that you do?
Abby Collins: So, we have some really great partnerships. I briefly mentioned the Food Dignity Program. They're an incredible program. They're also a nonprofit. They buy from local farmers and then they provide to us, they provide to the community. So, through them we are able to get the fresh produce and everything that we need for our kids so that they can come and not have to worry about a meal.
But they also give back to the community. They set up farmer's markets for the kids to come, and it's take whatever you want, and it's amazing. They also set it up for the community themselves. They'll set up here. They have other locations where they do pay what you can, take what you need. They set that up, but that's so important.
We work with [00:24:00] CASA, so, that's with their foster care kids. We work with the Cancer Wellness program. Just really reaching out to our community and getting everybody involved. And then they kind of sometimes find us, which is really nice. But really, it's about working together. So, it's not just how can we benefit from you, but how can we help you as well? How can we work together? How can we work together to make everything else better? So that's been really important and a really vital part of what we do.
Christa Hein: So, your role is both education and events, and I'm curious about how those two worlds connect. I saw your public events calendar and, of course, your big 20th anniversary celebration coming this year. How do public events support your educational mission on the farm? Are they mainly a fundraiser, community building, an entry point, or a little of all of that?
Abby Collins: It's a little bit of all of that. We do try to do as many free things as we can for the public. So, I just officially took over the event [00:25:00] aspect of it in January. I knew it was coming, it was part of the deal. So, I officially took over, so we have some small things coming.
It's really just about getting the community out here. Get them out here, get them involved, and again, I'm going to educate you and you're not even going to know it. We're sneaking up on you. And again, just providing an opportunity that they might not otherwise have. Right now, we have some small events coming up. We have our sheep shearing event that you can come out to visit. And it's also going to be nice out. So, we have plenty of space to be.
And then we're doing a Dairy Day event. That's going to be in June. And during that they'll be able to hop on a tractor ride. And what they'll do is they'll actually be able to go out, our executive director will probably be on the tractor as well, and you'll go up into the fields where the cows are. And we use that as an opportunity to explain our mission, to explain what we're doing here, what the cows are doing, why they're important to us, why everything's important to us, and how we do what we do, why we do what we do.
And we also invite the community, because we want them to ask [00:26:00] questions. We're like open books here, so nothing is really ever off limits. Like, we want you to be curious. We want you to question us and we want to answer you. And we want to remind the community that, we always say we're owned by the community. This is your barn; this is for you.
So come see what we're doing, learn about it, and we want to show you how you can also be involved. It's also just really nice to see people out here, to be honest, in the summer. It's really nice to see people outside and just enjoy themselves and be a part of something much bigger than I think they realize.
Christa Hein: So, the farm is reaching its 20-year milestone. What does that mean to you, especially having been there for so much of that journey?
Abby Collins: Sometimes it makes me, if you would've told me 20 years ago that I would've been here 20 years later, I probably would've giggled about it. I can't believe it's been 20 years. Through planning our anniversary dinner and talking about it, what's cool is a lot of us have actually been here the whole time. [00:27:00] So, it doesn't feel like 20 years at times.
And I think it's because we are surrounded by the same core group of people for the most part. But it's crazy to see the improvements we've made. It's crazy to see the growth when you really start to look at it. We've been talking about it a lot more, especially with planning the anniversary dinner, just to see how far we've come just to see the improvements.
Just to really kind of take a step back and appreciate the work that's gone into it. The hours, the weekends, the extra time away from your families. And we're continuing to try and improve, you know, we've improved so much, we've expanded so much, and it's always, well, what's next? What are we going to do for the next 20?
Christa Hein: Well, that's what I was going to ask you next. What are you most excited about for the next 20 years?
Abby Collins: What are the next 20 years going to look like? For us, the next step that we're working on is getting into the schools. That's our new thing. We're trying to work with local school districts. And we're really just reaching out like, what do you need? What do [00:28:00] you think your students need and how can we help? What can we do?
Is it something as simple as coming in for Kindergarten or first and second grade, and just talking about the very basics of where your food comes from? Is it your high school kids and their environmental class, and them coming out here and hands-on learning about why that's important? Why buffer zones are needed, and what's the benefit of it? How do we get into your school? How do we help you and your students and. Really, just get everybody more involved. So, we're trying to do that.
You know, how do we keep improving our dairy herd? What's the next steps with that? And just again, how do we keep improving our community really is what it comes down to. How do we do that? How do we keep making the right steps to support our community and improve everything that we can, and can we all make it another 20 years?
Christa Hein: So, for someone listening who is feeling drawn to creating something meaningful through farm education, is there [00:29:00] any advice from your last 20 years that you'd share with them as they think of getting started or expanding?
Abby Collins: I think a big thing is failure is going to happen, but just because it fails doesn't mean you have failed. It doesn't mean that there's no other options. There have been things that we've tried to do, and we have not been successful. So maybe it just needs to be revamped. And it could be super discouraging, but it's okay. It's okay to fail. People are always going to criticize you no matter what you try to do, no matter what. They're always going to have questions, and that's okay. Let them ask questions.
I also think, take advice, if people have advice, listen to it. You don't have to, you know, follow through with what they're saying, but sometimes you get some pretty good ideas from people.
You just have to try, get involved with your community, see what they need, how can you help them. You can't just think for yourself. You have to think about those around you as well. It's needed, I think we really need to keep pushing for farm [00:30:00] education, environmental education. More than ever, I think we really need to do what we can.
And even the smallest of things is going to make a big difference. Something as small as these kids coming out here for a tour, and just that exposure, I think, is huge. It gets the word out, it gets people involved. But my big thing is, yeah, failure's going to happen and that's okay.
It does get better. You have to really push through it, but failure's okay. You just got to go back to the drawing board. And I definitely also say surround yourself with people who want what you want. The people that I work with here are, we're one big dysfunctional family as we like to say, but we all have the same mission in mind. We all have the same goals in mind, and that has made the successes and the failures work really.
Christa Hein: That's all great advice. So, to wrap up, if people want to learn more about Hillside or connect with you, where can they find the farm online?
Abby Collins: So, we have our website which is just, you can go to Google and put the [00:31:00] landsathillsidefarms.org. We are also on Facebook, so that's another one. So, hillsidefarms.org. Those are the two main ones, those two platforms will get you where you need to go.
Christa Hein: Great. Abby, you've helped create so much more than a place for people to visit a farm. You've built a place where education, healing, partnership, and community all meet. Thank you so much for sharing your story and giving us a look inside the many different ways that the Lands at Hillside Farms is serving people.
Abby Collins: Thank you so much for having us. We're really excited and we're doing the best we can, and that's all we can hope to keep doing. But thank you so much for having us.
Christa Hein: Absolutely. To our listeners, I think this episode is such a good reminder that sometimes the most interesting thing about a farm education program is not just the activities it offers, but the deeper role it plays in people's lives and in its community.
If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to follow the podcast, leave a review, and share it with someone else who cares about this work. And as always, keep teaching, keep [00:32:00] growing, and keep connecting people to the land.
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